tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38053992.post7408617208931556209..comments2023-05-14T08:18:09.346-04:00Comments on The Fictionistas: Rap Videos and Female ImageKristen Painterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07984459504977637298noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38053992.post-6813365812611700982008-07-25T20:35:00.000-04:002008-07-25T20:35:00.000-04:00Yeah, I don't like what I see in rap videos but I ...Yeah, I don't like what I see in rap videos but I also came up during the metal hair band era and it was just as bad. Tawny Kitaen (SP?) writhing on a car hood. So classy!<BR/><BR/>In a way I think we only started growing up enough as a society to deal with the sexual revolution about 5 years ago... and we aren't there yet.Chrissyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17825661131803547197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38053992.post-47991063943267323102008-07-25T09:57:00.000-04:002008-07-25T09:57:00.000-04:00Rap is NOT my thing, but the ones I have seen both...Rap is NOT my thing, but the ones I have seen bothered me...but, as Gwen said, the stuff I watched wasn't pure either and I did OK...Debbie Mumfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10663742020370806681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38053992.post-90396836058903264652008-07-25T07:05:00.000-04:002008-07-25T07:05:00.000-04:00I think rap in general is bad for the female image...I think rap in general is bad for the female image. Those videos only solidify that idea.Kristen Painterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07984459504977637298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38053992.post-34861089853773669522008-07-24T19:06:00.000-04:002008-07-24T19:06:00.000-04:00I think it's an issue for pretty much for all fema...I think it's an issue for pretty much for all female performers in the entertainment industry. I was annoyed for years at how Premiere Magazine would have male movie stars on its cover in perfectly dignified poses, but when it had a female star on the cover, she would be wearing little or nothing (even if she wasn't known for particularly sexy roles--they had Jodie Foster do it twice.)<BR/><BR/>And I think it's worse than it was in the 70's and 80's. If you see Janet Jackson in an early video, she's dancing around with all her clothes on--long pants, jacket, etc--and her dance is a dance-dance, not a stripper-dance. Nowadays, it seems almost every female singer has to show skin, pout for the camera, and shake her butt...<BR/><BR/>Personally, I blame it all on Madonna. :-) Once she convinced people that posing in lingerie was a feminist statement, all was lost... :-)<BR/><BR/>CaraCara Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02930608028959652445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38053992.post-38624588521874886672008-07-24T18:12:00.000-04:002008-07-24T18:12:00.000-04:00It's sad how objectified women are in videos. Why ...It's sad how objectified women are in videos. Why do we have to reduce a woman down to a pair of big boobs, or a bouncing butt wearing nothing more than a teeny bikini bottom? :( <BR/><BR/>But for women to keep taking these dancing jobs on videos, isn't that perpetuating the issue? <BR/><BR/>And that's aimed at ALL women, not just those of color--because as it was mentioned before, 80's hair bands were notorious for objectifying women, too.<BR/><BR/>My hope is that women will STOP the industry from disrespecting them, using them in this manner. But I think we know that's not going to happen...because there ARE women out there who want to be a star, no matter WHAT it takes. Even if that means being just a pair of big boobs or a bouncing butt.<BR/><BR/>And like you said, what other options are really out there for many dancers? :(<BR/><BR/>Maybe it's time to start figuring something else out...<BR/><BR/>Great topic, Amanda!!Rhonda Helmshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11855833088957182413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38053992.post-79782034242210276472008-07-24T16:19:00.000-04:002008-07-24T16:19:00.000-04:00My bad...Alicia Silverstone may have been "practic...My bad...Alicia Silverstone may have been "practically underage" in the Crazy video (practically, because she was actually legal...just barely) but Liv was just 17.<BR/><BR/>And in her dad's video. Being a vixen. I have no problem with her being in sexy video, but it just creeps me out that her dad was like "perfect! I'll cast my daughter in this slutty role!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38053992.post-38291414642751219932008-07-24T16:13:00.000-04:002008-07-24T16:13:00.000-04:00Yup...that's the one. Alicia Silverstone was in VH...Yup...that's the one. Alicia Silverstone was in VH-1's Top 5 of 90s hotties and they attribute it almost entirely to her status as "practically underage video babe", especially her lesbian-erotica-undertoned "Crazy" video with Liv.<BR/><BR/>They never made out on screen or anything, but it was so clear that once the camera faded to black that they just might...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38053992.post-47117887860547589952008-07-24T16:06:00.000-04:002008-07-24T16:06:00.000-04:00Oh....yeah. Wasn't Alicia Silverstein in that too...Oh....yeah. Wasn't Alicia Silverstein in that too?<BR/><BR/>I'm kinda getting into the 90s now because that last book had me immersed in the 80s for several months.Gwen Hayeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07372049662768907328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38053992.post-73771293531830280512008-07-24T15:59:00.000-04:002008-07-24T15:59:00.000-04:00Good point, Gwen, although I think the dancer inte...Good point, Gwen, although I think the dancer interviewed by CNN was saying that she doesn't really has a choice. If she wants to dance, she has to work in the rap videos, because there aren't really any other options for black dancers.<BR/><BR/>I guess she would say that whereas the chicks in the hair bands were being objectified, they chose their objectification? I dunno.<BR/><BR/>Speaking of hair bands and videos and objectification, I watched VH-1's "40 Hottest Hotties of the 90s" the other day (GREAT show, by the way...LOL!) and I was reminded of just how icky it kinda is that Steven Tyler put his own daughter in the "Crazy" video. We're talking Lesbian Lolita Fantasy...<BR/><BR/>(Damn, that was a hot video.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38053992.post-23974977216395440452008-07-24T15:39:00.000-04:002008-07-24T15:39:00.000-04:00I haven't watched a lot of rap videos--but, yeah t...I haven't watched a lot of rap videos--but, yeah the ones I've seen objectify women. So did a lot of the long hair bands I watched in the 80s. But I don't think it affected me in a bad way. I chalk it up to fantasy.Gwen Hayeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07372049662768907328noreply@blogger.com